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		<title>Opaque Obama</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/10/opaque-obama/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Urrrg!
This pisses me off in a BIG way.
Just for starters there&#8217;s this. But, read the article. It is short and it is a doozy.
In just the last few days, virtually unnoticed by most of the news media, administration officials have:
Rejected a new Freedom of Information request for White House visitor logs (despite their announced intention [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urrrg!</p>
<p>This pisses me off in a BIG way.</p>
<p>Just for starters there&#8217;s this. But, read the article. It is short and it is a doozy.</p>
<p>In just the last few days, virtually unnoticed by most of the news media, administration officials have:<br />
Rejected a new Freedom of Information request for White House visitor logs (despite their announced intention to start making such documents public).<br />
Appealed, yet again, to invoke &#8220;state secrets&#8221; to block a lawsuit that might shed light on the CIA&#8217;s extraordinary rendition of terror suspects to countries that practice torture.<br />
Gotten Congress to pass legislation that would prevent graphic photographs of detainee abuse by the U.S. government from ever becoming public. (Update: Obama on Thursday signed into law a homeland security bill that exempts from the photos from the Freedom of Information Act.)</p>
<p>http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2009/10/29/obama-secrecy-watch-full-intelligence-briefings-would-step-on-executive-prerogatives.aspx</p>
<p>Executive prerogatives my ass. I say power corrupts.</p>
<p>Need to stay on ours too.</p>
<p>DA</p>
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		<title>Defend Glenn Beck and White Culture</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/09/defend-glenn-beck-and-white-culture/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Swamp Rat</dc:creator>
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		<title>Blue Dog Democrats &#8211; Its just their nature</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/08/blue-dog-democrats-its-just-their-nature/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Daniel in the Lions Den</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/06/daniel-in-the-lions-den/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Heretik</dc:creator>
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And the lions win . . . . Froomkin gets head bitten off at the Washington Post.  Dan Froomkin&#8217;s truth apparently is too hard for some to swallow.
The Heretik thinks this bites.
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<p>And the lions win . . . . Froomkin gets head bitten off at the Washington Post.  Dan Froomkin&#8217;s <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/18/froomkin/index.html"><strong>truth</strong></a> apparently is too hard for some to <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_06/018675.php"><strong>swallow</strong></a>.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://theheretik.us">The Heretik</a></strong> thinks this bites.</p>
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		<title>The Scarlet Letter R</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/05/the-scarlet-letter-r/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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		<title>Colonel Krank</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/05/colonel-krank/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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		<title>Bimbos for Opposite Marriage</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/05/bimbos-for-opposite-marriage/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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Her opposite? The greatest brain on earth.
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<p><strong>Her opposite? The greatest brain on earth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>DA</strong></p>
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		<title>When Pig Viruses Fly!</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/04/flying-pig-flu/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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Part bird virus, part pig virus, part human virus&#8230;
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<p><strong>Part bird virus, part pig virus, part human virus&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>Hey Dick!</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/04/hey-dick/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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		<title>Iraq &#8220;Bad Intel&#8221; Was Based On Tortured Confessions &#8211; Torture KILLED Americans</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/04/iraq-bad-intel-was-based-on-tortured-confessions-torture-killed-americans/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We keep hearing these right-wing torture apologists telling us how torture &#8220;worked and saved American lives&#8221;.
Just the opposite is true. It resulted in the senseless deaths of thousands of Americans.
We have known (thanks toÂ reports from former Deputy Sec of State, Larry Wilkerson) for some time that key claims made by the administration about contacts between [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We keep hearing these right-wing torture apologists telling us how torture &#8220;worked and saved American lives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just the opposite is true. It resulted in the senseless deaths of thousands of Americans.</p>
<p>We have known (thanks toÂ reports from former Deputy Sec of State, Larry Wilkerson) for some time that key claims made by the administration about contacts between Saddam and Al Qaeda were the result of the torture of one Ibn Sheikh Al Libby, who wasÂ &#8221;rendered&#8221; to Syria and tortured during interrogation.Â  Eventually, they put him in a coffin-like &#8220;confinement box&#8221; for an extended period of time and then beat him senseless when he was eventually taken out.Â </p>
<p>Suddenly, he answered &#8220;Yes&#8221; to the repeated questions about the supposed contacts.Â </p>
<p>That information was a key argument put forth by the administration during Colin Powell&#8217;s now infamous UN speech.</p>
<p>Just so you know I am not pulling that info out of my posterior, here is Wilkerson in his own somewhat sanitized words:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4481092.stm"><font color="#800080">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4481092.stm</font></a></p>
<blockquote style="margin-right: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><strong>Lately, I&#8217;m growing increasingly concerned because two things have just happened here that really make me wonder. </strong></p>
<p><strong>And the one is the questioning of Sheikh al-Libby where his confessions were obtained through interrogation techniques other than those authorised by Geneva. </strong></p>
<p><strong>It led Colin Powell to say at the UN on 5 February 2003 that there were some pretty substantive contacts between al-Qaeda and Baghdad. And we now know that al-Libby&#8217;s forced confession has been recanted and we know &#8211; we&#8217;re pretty sure that it was invalid. </strong></p>
<p><strong>But more important than that, we know that there was a defence intelligence agency dissent on that testimony even before Colin Powell made his presentation. We never heard about that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Follow that up with Curveball, and the fact that the Germans now say they told our CIA well before Colin Powell gave his presentation that Curveball &#8211; the source to the biological mobile laboratories &#8211; was lying and was not a trustworthy source. And then you begin to speculate, you begin to wonder was this intelligence spun; was it politicised; was it cherry-picked; did in fact the American people get fooled &#8211; I am beginning to have my concerns. <!-- E BO --><br />
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<p><strong><font size="3" color="#ff0000">Got that?Â  Tortured false confessions led us into a brutal and illegal war in Iraq.Â  </font></strong></p>
<p><strong><font size="3" color="#ff0000">So, rather than saving American lives, it is clear that it has actually cost us thouands of American lives (and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis theirs).</font></strong></p>
<p><strong><font size="3" color="#ff0000">False confessions tortured out of people have resulted in moreÂ U.S. deaths than 9-11!Â </font></strong></p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s more:</strong></p>
<p>Wilkerson has recently given several recent interviews where he says that as part of his State Department job, he became aware of roughly <strong>200 detainees that have died in our hands</strong>.Â  That number grew steadily over time as he tracked it.Â  His early testimony before Congress started with about 100.Â </p>
<p>You do not hearÂ peopleÂ talking about the folks we killed in custody. But, you watch, that will come out in more detail as this is investigated by the media and hopefully a FederalÂ prosecutor.Â </p>
<p>We were not only inflicting &#8220;severe physical and mental pain&#8221; on our detainees. We were literally torturing folks to DEATH.</p>
<p><strong>Folks like this guy</strong> (in pics taken so they could be used to threaten other detainees with a similar fate)<strong>:</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://time.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/agcorpse3_1.jpg" /></p>
<p><img src="http://attendingtheworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/0504_thumbs_up_corpse_500x3.jpg" /></p>
<p>And that my friends is why the sick freaks that planned, authorized AND carried out this torture programÂ must be prosecuted.Â  Every last one of them.Â  Just as the Geneva Conventions REQUIRES.</p>
<p>Do it to prevent this from ever happening again. Do it to get justice for our victims. Do it for the senseless victims (on both sides) of a war we launched based on tortured confessions.</p>
<p>Do it because AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF LAWS.</p>
<p>DA</p>
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		<title>Is he up to stuff?</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/04/is-he-up-to-stuff/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>We Have Been Burning Witches!</title>
		<link>http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/2009/04/we-have-been-burning-witches/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Distressed American</dc:creator>
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When you hear media phrasing like &#8220;self-confessed mastermind of 9-11&#8243;, remember that if it were you or I experiencing this torture we&#8217;d confess to being the mastermind just to make the abuse stop.Â  By the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Unless you believe in witches, you know that torture produces false confessions.Â  History proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.</p>
<p>When you hear media phrasing like &#8220;self-confessed mastermind of 9-11&#8243;, remember that if it were you or I experiencing this torture we&#8217;d confess to being the mastermind just to make the abuse stop.Â  By the time they waterboarded us 183 times in a month, we would actually believe that we had been the so-called &#8220;mastermind&#8221; of the attack.</p>
<p>DA</p>
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		<title>Extemist Christians That Love &#8220;God&#8217;s Magnificient Instrument of Torture&#8221;â€</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, this may actually be the &#8220;Worst person in the world&#8221;.Â 
Thought I&#8217;d recirculate this post from &#8220;Domionists for Tancredo 2012&#8243;.Â 
http://protoplasm.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/no-matter-what-we-call-it-torture-can-change-hearts-of-evildoers/
Give it a good read.Â  It BLEW my mind.Â 
Is there any word for views like this other than &#8220;sick&#8221;?Â  Maybe &#8220;Christofascism&#8221;?
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ApparentlyÂ this freak Rev. HippleÂ forgets that:

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Just when I think I could not be more disgusted:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, this may actually be the &#8220;Worst person in the world&#8221;.Â </p>
<p>Thought I&#8217;d recirculate this post from &#8220;Domionists for Tancredo 2012&#8243;.Â </p>
<p><a href="http://protoplasm.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/no-matter-what-we-call-it-torture-can-change-hearts-of-evildoers/"><font color="#800080">http://protoplasm.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/no-matter-what-we-call-it-torture-can-change-hearts-of-evildoers/</font></a></p>
<p>Give it a good read.Â  It BLEW my mind.Â </p>
<p>Is there any word for views like this other than &#8220;sick&#8221;?Â  Maybe &#8220;Christofascism&#8221;?</p>
<p>DA</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/"><font color="#800080">www.seedsofdoubt.com</font></a></p>
<p>ApparentlyÂ this freak Rev. HippleÂ forgets that:</p>
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<p><strong>Just when I think I could not be more disgusted:</strong></p>
<h2>No matter what we call it, torture can change hearts ofÂ evildoers</h2>
<p><font size="2"><small><font color="#777777" face="Arial">By Hipple, Rev. Paul T.</font></small> </font></p>
<p class="snap_preview"><img width="231" src="http://protoplasm.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/water-torture.jpg?w=231&amp;h=300" alt="42-15819098" height="300" title="42-15819098" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-209" />It is hard to resist sarcasm.Â  With our USÂ  government now transitioning from one based upon Christian Principles to one based on the Quran, <a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/19/obama-the-crawford-torture-admission-the-army-field-manual-lie/"><font color="#0066cc">it seems to have </font></a>become <a href="http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/us-law-those-who-authorized-torture.html"><font color="#0066cc">fashionable lately to rename</font></a> â€˜enhanced interrogation techniquesâ€™ as torture.</p>
<p>We must accept the fact that what is sure to follow this revision of terms is Persecution of the<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2206518/"><font color="#0066cc"> good Christians working for the Bush administration</font></a>, because nobody who has been accused of practicing enhanced interrogation techniques will ever be convicted of war crimes.</p>
<p>Fine, letâ€™s call it torture and letâ€™s accept that Christians, like Jesus Christ before them, will be unjustly brought to trial and face death for their acts of torture.Â  When this happens, let us Prayerfully give thanks, taking solace in how it reminds us that<a href="http://nottheactor.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/christian-persecution-right-here-in-north-america/"><font color="#0066cc"> persecution is precisely what defines Christians as a great Religious Movement</font></a>.</p>
<p>Even so, the elect can take further solace in knowing the convicted are saved and at Peace with God.Â  If the US detention facility official who is conducting torture doesÂ  not enjoy torturing the terrorist prisoner, it is completely illogical to think that he is engaged in anything other than the routine extraction of intelligence information from heartless, bloodthirsty murderers.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is,Â  we are compelled by our Christian Faith <a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/evans/090115"><font color="#0066cc">to perform whatever uncomfortable acts are necessary</font></a> to prevent islamojihadists from committing mass murder.Â  And if Good Christians are brought to trial and persecuted simply because they sought to uncover these muslim deceptions, we must accept that as Godâ€™s Will.</p>
<p>And through all of this, letâ€™s not forget that torture does work.Â  The liberal mainstream media would have you believe that it doesnâ€™t.Â  But of course, they have that wrong, too.</p>
<p>For an excellent example, look no further than to the case ofÂ  Sayed Imam Al-Sharif, ak Dr. Fadl.Â Â  As we all know, before now, no muslim has ever repudiated the terrorist acts of al-Qaeda and for this reason, we now clearly understand that Islam is not a peace loving religion.Â  However, none other than the ideological founder of Islamic Jihad,Â  after being tortured as a prisoner ofÂ  the Egyptian authorities for over a decade, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/alqaida.egypt"><font color="#0066cc">Dr. Fadl finally broke, repudiating his islamofascist legacy</font></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a prison cell south of Cairo a repentant Egyptian terrorist leader is putting the finishing touches to a remarkable recantation that undermines the Muslim theological basis for violent jihad and is set to generate furious controversy among former comrades still fighting with al-Qaida.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, this common criminal doesnâ€™t believe a word of it, and would gladly go back to slaughtering Christians if given the chance.Â  But that isnâ€™t the point.Â  My point is this repudiation of violent islamic extremeism would not have been possible without Godâ€™s magnificant instrument of torture! Now, for the first time, we have real hope Obama bin Laden will fear what has happened to his colleague, heed the words of this torture victim, lay down his arms, and surrender peaceflly to the nearest authorities.</p>
<p>The next time someone trys to tell you torture is useless, tell them about how a bloodthirsty jihadist in prison called Dr. Fadl,Â  somewhere around or near the Nile River,Â  is suddenly singing peace and love like a purple martin sitting on a 20 foot pole.</p>
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		<title>They Didn&#8217;t Even Follow Their Own Bogus Torture Memosâ€</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know me. I had to go read the original torture memos.
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Note that Obama said that there would be no prosecution of individual interrogators who followed the legal memos issued by the criminals at the OLC.Â  Let&#8217;s leave aside for now the facts that &#8220;following orders&#8221; does not constitute a viable defense for war crimes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know me. I had to go read the original torture memos.<br />
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Note that Obama said that there would be no prosecution of individual interrogators who followed the legal memos issued by the criminals at the OLC.Â  Let&#8217;s leave aside for now the facts that &#8220;following orders&#8221; does not constitute a viable defense for war crimes and the Geneva Conventions does not make prosecution of torture optional.<br />
Â <br />
There is a lot of info in these memos. But, one tidbit stuck out to me when reading them:<br />
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<strong>&#8220;You have indicated that these acts will not be used with substantial repetition, so there is no possibility that severe physical pain could arise from such repetition. Accordingly we conclude that these acts neither separately nor as part of a course of conduct would inflict severe physical pain or suffering within the meaning of the statute.&#8221; &#8211; BybeeÂ Torture Memo &#8211; Page 11</strong><br />
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It is clear that &#8220;substantial repetition&#8221; of these acts was NOT authorized by the OLC mob lawyers.Â <br />
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Yet, we know that Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month and KSM 183 times in the same period of time.Â  We can also pretty safely assume that other techniques were being applied between waterboardings, &#8220;a course of conduct&#8221;.<br />
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I would say that 183 times in a month most definitely constitutes &#8220;substantial repetition&#8221;.Â  As such, even under the rules Obama has set up, it seems that the folks doing those interrogations would not be entitled to legal protection based on the notion that they followed the guidelines set out in the memos.Â </p>
<p>They clearly went WAY beyond these bogus authorizations.<br />
Â <br />
Procesute these torturer scum.Â  Make America great again.<br />
Â <br />
DA</p>
<p>p.s. Thanks to the tireless work of the ACLU, you can read the original memos here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html">http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html</a></p>
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		<title>Wanted &#8211; The Bush Sixteen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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Â Lest we get too focused on the lawyers, or the CIA or any other indivdual abuser.Â 
Remember, they are ALL guilty of a criminal conspiracy and of torture.Â  War crimes for which others have been prosecuted and even lost their lives.
I am sure there are others I am missing. Let the investigtations show who they are.
Â DA
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<p>Â Lest we get too focused on the lawyers, or the CIA or any other indivdual abuser.Â </p>
<p>Remember, they are ALL guilty of a criminal conspiracy and of torture.Â  War crimes for which others have been prosecuted and even lost their lives.</p>
<p>I am sure there are others I am missing. Let the investigtations show who they are.</p>
<p>Â DA</p>
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